Compare Agentforce Sales (formerly Salesforce Sales Cloud) and Lead411

At a Glance
Agentforce Sales (formerly Salesforce Sales Cloud)
Agentforce Sales (formerly Salesforce Sales Cloud)
Star Rating
(25,503)4.4 out of 5
Market Segments
Mid-Market (46.0% of reviews)
Information
Pros & Cons
Entry-Level Pricing
$25.00 1 User Per Month
Free Trial is available
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Lead411
Lead411
Star Rating
(477)4.5 out of 5
Market Segments
Small-Business (70.4% of reviews)
Information
Pros & Cons
Entry-Level Pricing
$490.00 1 per Seat/ 1 Year Contract Per Year
Browse all 3 pricing plans
AI Generated Summary
AI-generated. Powered by real user reviews.
  • G2 reviewers report that Agentforce Sales excels in providing a comprehensive suite of automation tools, which users find invaluable for managing sales pipelines efficiently. One user highlighted its "powerful automation, customizable dashboards, and real-time insights" that significantly enhance productivity.
  • Users say that Lead411 offers a user-friendly interface, making it easy to navigate and utilize its features. Reviewers appreciate its "simple to use format and search functions," which help them quickly build accurate lists and prioritize prospects.
  • According to verified reviews, Agentforce Sales has a much higher overall satisfaction score, reflecting its robust capabilities in sales engagement and customer relationship management. Users have noted how it helps maintain close relationships with clients and effectively tracks inquiries.
  • Reviewers mention that while Lead411 provides quality leads, it lacks the depth of features found in Agentforce Sales. Users have expressed a desire for more advanced functionalities that can support complex sales processes, which Agentforce Sales delivers with its extensive feature set.
  • G2 reviewers highlight that Agentforce Sales has a more challenging setup process compared to Lead411, which is praised for its quick and intuitive onboarding. Users of Lead411 appreciate the ease of getting started, allowing them to focus on selling sooner.
  • Users report that Agentforce Sales offers superior support and resources, with many praising its ability to assist with onboarding and customer inquiries. In contrast, Lead411's support has received mixed feedback, indicating room for improvement in this area.
Pricing
Entry-Level Pricing
Agentforce Sales (formerly Salesforce Sales Cloud)
Starter Edition
$25.00
1 User Per Month
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Lead411
Spark Annual
$490.00
1 per Seat/ 1 Year Contract Per Year
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Free Trial
Agentforce Sales (formerly Salesforce Sales Cloud)
Free Trial is available
Lead411
Free Trial is available
Ratings
Meets Requirements
8.8
13,943
8.7
343
Ease of Use
8.2
17,933
8.9
347
Ease of Setup
7.8
8,884
9.2
136
Ease of Admin
7.9
4,479
9.0
118
Quality of Support
8.1
12,164
9.0
316
Has the product been a good partner in doing business?
8.4
4,442
9.2
118
Product Direction (% positive)
8.3
13,616
9.1
314
Features by Category
8.2
10,885
Not enough data
Sales Force Automation
8.8
9536
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.3
6402
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.7
9262
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.3
9496
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.0
7325
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.2
7620
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.0
6764
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.1
6664
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.3
7416
|
Verified
Not enough data
Marketing Automation
8.0
6677
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.1
6996
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.5
8065
|
Verified
Not enough data
7.9
5431
Not enough data
Customer Support
8.3
6833
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.1
6390
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.2
6790
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.0
5501
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.2
5995
|
Verified
Not enough data
Reporting & Analytics
8.5
8993
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.5
9164
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.2
7457
|
Verified
Not enough data
Mobile & Social
7.9
5625
|
Verified
Not enough data
7.8
5251
|
Verified
Not enough data
7.7
6106
|
Verified
Not enough data
Platform
8.5
3615
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.5
3618
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.6
3630
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.4
2899
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.5
3175
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.1
3193
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.7
3614
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.1
3028
Not enough data
Integration
8.5
2603
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.5
3070
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.5
2896
|
Verified
Not enough data
Generative AI
7.6
888
Not enough data
Agentic AI - CRM
7.8
250
Not enough data
7.9
248
Not enough data
8.2
247
Not enough data
8.0
240
Not enough data
8.0
239
Not enough data
8.0
242
Not enough data
8.2
245
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Reports
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Self Service
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Advanced Analytics
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Building Reports
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Platform
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
8.2
197
Data Availability
Not enough data
8.3
183
Not enough data
8.5
178
Not enough data
8.2
158
|
Verified
Not enough data
7.8
13
Data Accuracy
Not enough data
7.8
181
Not enough data
8.3
178
Not enough data
7.9
12
Agentic AI - Sales Intelligence
Not enough data
7.1
7
Not enough data
7.6
7
Not enough data
7.6
7
Not enough data
7.6
7
Not enough data
8.6
7
Not enough data
8.1
7
Platform
Not enough data
7.7
34
Not enough data
8.8
52
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.5
72
Not enough data
8.4
60
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.5
27
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.7
43
Features
Not enough data
8.7
141
Not enough data
8.2
101
Not enough data
7.9
108
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.4
118
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.7
169
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.8
134
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.5
28
Not enough data
8.4
103
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.2
45
|
Verified
Account Data ManagementHide 20 FeaturesShow 20 Features
Not enough data
8.7
14
Lead Intelligence
Not enough data
8.7
10
Not enough data
8.5
10
Not enough data
9.0
10
Lead Management
Not enough data
8.8
10
Not enough data
8.5
11
Not enough data
8.9
12
Marketing Campaigns
Not enough data
Feature Not Available
Not enough data
Feature Not Available
Not enough data
Feature Not Available
Not enough data
8.7
10
Not enough data
Feature Not Available
Campaign Execution
Not enough data
Feature Not Available
Not enough data
8.5
8
Not enough data
8.3
8
Not enough data
9.1
9
Agentic AI - Account Data Management
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
8.6
46
Not enough data
Cartography
8.8
40
Not enough data
8.5
36
Not enough data
8.6
40
Not enough data
8.5
40
Not enough data
Analysis
8.4
33
Not enough data
8.5
39
Not enough data
8.5
36
Not enough data
8.5
35
Not enough data
Reporting
8.7
34
Not enough data
8.5
29
Not enough data
8.8
27
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Lead Generation
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
8.8
414
7.9
11
Lead Facilitation
8.6
274
Not enough data
8.8
297
8.0
9
8.8
317
8.1
9
8.6
292
Feature Not Available
Organization
9.0
354
8.3
9
8.8
345
7.5
8
8.8
340
7.5
8
Performance Analysis
8.4
286
Feature Not Available
8.8
308
Feature Not Available
Sales Analysis
8.4
285
Feature Not Available
8.8
302
Feature Not Available
Generative AI
8.5
126
Not enough data
8.4
126
Not enough data
Agentic AI - AI Sales Assistant
9.2
28
Not enough data
9.1
28
Not enough data
8.9
27
Not enough data
9.0
26
Not enough data
9.3
28
Not enough data
9.1
27
Not enough data
9.3
28
Not enough data
8.3
613
7.8
66
Integrated Workflows
8.7
523
7.9
31
|
Verified
8.5
515
8.0
33
|
Verified
8.1
470
7.0
22
8.1
464
8.0
35
|
Verified
8.9
527
8.4
36
|
Verified
8.4
472
6.9
6
8.6
484
7.8
18
Repeatability and Reportability
8.4
486
7.9
33
|
Verified
8.7
504
7.7
31
|
Verified
8.7
501
7.7
32
|
Verified
8.3
486
8.0
29
7.8
418
Not enough data
AI and Automation
8.5
465
8.3
25
8.4
473
8.2
18
8.3
429
7.5
19
8.0
433
8.0
22
7.8
416
7.0
14
Generative AI
7.4
271
Not enough data
Agentic AI - Sales Engagement
8.3
89
Not enough data
8.5
90
Not enough data
8.6
87
Not enough data
8.4
90
Not enough data
8.3
89
Not enough data
8.2
90
Not enough data
8.5
90
Not enough data
Conversation IntelligenceHide 15 FeaturesShow 15 Features
8.8
179
Not enough data
Call Analytics
8.7
130
Not enough data
8.5
134
Not enough data
8.7
130
Not enough data
8.9
131
Not enough data
Artificial Intelligence - Conversation Intelligence
8.7
140
Not enough data
8.6
124
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Generative AI
8.2
58
Not enough data
Agentic AI - Conversation Intelligence
8.6
12
Not enough data
9.2
14
Not enough data
9.2
13
Not enough data
9.2
14
Not enough data
8.6
12
Not enough data
8.8
12
Not enough data
9.0
13
Not enough data
Buyer Intent Data ProvidersHide 8 FeaturesShow 8 Features
Not enough data
8.3
5
Data Availability
Not enough data
8.3
5
Not enough data
9.0
5
Not enough data
7.7
5
Platform Additional Functionality
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Platform Functionality
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Feature Not Available
Not enough data
Feature Not Available
Not enough data
Feature Not Available
Agentic AI - Recruiting Automation
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Platform
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
7.9
57
Lead Intelligence
Not enough data
8.1
49
|
Verified
Not enough data
7.9
49
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.1
54
|
Verified
Not enough data
7.5
37
|
Verified
Not enough data
7.7
38
|
Verified
Agentic AI - Lead Intelligence
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
8.5
26
Lead Monitoring
Not enough data
8.7
21
Not enough data
8.6
22
Not enough data
8.4
19
Agentic AI - Lead Capture
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Data Capture
Not enough data
8.5
13
Not enough data
8.6
14
Not enough data
8.6
14
Not enough data
8.8
20
Analytics
Not enough data
9.0
22
Not enough data
8.0
17
Customization
Not enough data
Feature Not Available
Not enough data
8.3
18
Not enough data
7.8
17
Not enough data
8.6
18
Not enough data
Not enough data
Data collection
Not enough data
8.8
13
Not enough data
8.6
16
|
Verified
Not enough data
9.0
18
|
Verified
Not enough data
7.9
16
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.5
16
Segment Trending
Not enough data
7.4
9
Not enough data
7.0
9
Not enough data
7.8
9
Not enough data
7.8
10
Analysis
Not enough data
7.7
10
Not enough data
8.2
11
|
Verified
Not enough data
7.9
11
|
Verified
Platform
Not enough data
8.9
20
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.7
14
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.0
9
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.5
14
|
Verified
Not enough data
6.2
10
|
Verified
Not enough data
8.2
12
Agentic AI - Market Intelligence
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Revenue Operations & Intelligence (RO&I)Hide 23 FeaturesShow 23 Features
8.3
74
Not enough data
Revenue Sourcing and Forecasting
8.6
65
Not enough data
8.5
66
Not enough data
8.8
66
Not enough data
8.5
63
Not enough data
8.4
63
Not enough data
8.3
57
Not enough data
8.2
58
Not enough data
CRM Data Enrichment
8.1
63
Not enough data
8.4
61
Not enough data
8.2
59
Not enough data
8.0
62
Not enough data
8.5
56
Not enough data
Account Management
8.2
63
Not enough data
8.0
63
Not enough data
8.1
60
Not enough data
8.2
59
Not enough data
8.6
55
Not enough data
8.4
56
Not enough data
Agentic AI - Revenue Operations & Intelligence (RO&I)
7.8
20
Not enough data
8.1
20
Not enough data
8.3
20
Not enough data
8.1
20
Not enough data
8.0
20
Not enough data
8.7
40
Not enough data
Territory Mapping
8.8
36
Not enough data
8.7
34
Not enough data
8.5
34
Not enough data
Route Planning
9.0
33
Not enough data
9.0
35
Not enough data
9.3
36
Not enough data
Sales Performance Management
8.4
31
Not enough data
8.6
34
Not enough data
9.1
34
Not enough data
Presentation and Forms
8.1
30
Not enough data
8.4
33
Not enough data
8.6
33
Not enough data
8.3
178
Not enough data
Integrations
8.1
156
Not enough data
8.5
157
Not enough data
8.1
156
Not enough data
8.1
155
Not enough data
8.8
158
Not enough data
Branding & Customizatio
8.1
151
Not enough data
8.2
154
Not enough data
8.3
154
Not enough data
Automatic Rules & Configurations
8.4
155
Not enough data
8.3
155
Not enough data
8.0
156
Not enough data
Agentic AI - Business Scheduling
8.3
32
Not enough data
8.4
34
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Generative AI
Not enough data
8.3
7
Not enough data
8.1
6
Agentic AI - Email Verification
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Generative AI
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
8.5
192
Not enough data
Sales Performance Features - Sales Planning
8.4
175
Not enough data
8.5
164
Not enough data
8.5
169
Not enough data
8.6
172
Not enough data
8.6
170
Not enough data
8.8
168
Not enough data
8.2
164
Not enough data
Territory Management - Sales Planning
8.6
166
Not enough data
8.5
172
Not enough data
Quota & Capacity Management - Sales Planning
8.4
169
Not enough data
8.4
176
Not enough data
8.4
168
Not enough data
Agentic AI - Sales Planning
8.5
57
Not enough data
8.5
56
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Agentic AI - Lead Mining
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
8.5
509
Not enough data
Agentic AI - Lead Scoring
7.8
56
Not enough data
8.2
55
Not enough data
7.9
57
Not enough data
8.1
58
Not enough data
Attribution
8.9
454
Not enough data
8.9
458
Not enough data
8.6
436
Not enough data
Discovery
8.9
462
Not enough data
8.6
455
Not enough data
8.6
433
Not enough data
Management
8.5
421
Not enough data
8.6
443
Not enough data
Platform
8.6
433
Not enough data
8.6
432
Not enough data
Sales Performance ManagementHide 14 FeaturesShow 14 Features
8.5
682
Not enough data
Agentic AI - Sales Performance Management
8.5
75
Not enough data
8.6
74
Not enough data
8.5
76
Not enough data
Incentives
8.2
439
Not enough data
8.4
503
Not enough data
8.0
436
Not enough data
8.6
514
Not enough data
Personalization
8.6
485
Not enough data
8.8
561
Not enough data
8.9
594
Not enough data
8.6
537
Not enough data
Administrative
8.7
566
Not enough data
8.5
528
Not enough data
8.4
510
Not enough data
8.3
713
Not enough data
Agentic AI - Email Tracking
8.1
62
Not enough data
8.4
60
Not enough data
8.4
60
Not enough data
8.2
61
Not enough data
8.4
61
Not enough data
8.3
60
Not enough data
8.3
63
Not enough data
Analytics
8.3
568
Not enough data
8.4
577
Not enough data
8.3
591
Not enough data
Customizations
8.7
622
Not enough data
8.5
592
Not enough data
8.5
625
Not enough data
8.3
570
Not enough data
8.4
597
Not enough data
Generative AI
7.5
290
Not enough data
8.5
1,195
Not enough data
Agentic AI - Sales Analytics
8.3
80
Not enough data
8.6
79
Not enough data
8.4
80
Not enough data
8.3
79
Not enough data
8.3
79
Not enough data
Data Sourcing
8.5
968
Not enough data
8.7
999
Not enough data
8.3
902
Not enough data
8.7
1031
Not enough data
8.6
962
Not enough data
Predictive Analytics
8.4
947
Not enough data
8.6
961
Not enough data
8.1
856
Not enough data
8.3
896
Not enough data
Sales Management
8.7
985
Not enough data
8.1
858
Not enough data
8.6
982
Not enough data
8.8
1052
Not enough data
Outbound Call TrackingHide 16 FeaturesShow 16 Features
8.6
221
Not enough data
Agentic AI - Outbound Call Tracking
8.6
39
Not enough data
8.6
40
Not enough data
Calling
8.5
186
Not enough data
8.4
177
Not enough data
8.7
186
Not enough data
8.7
184
Not enough data
8.6
45
Not enough data
Contacts
8.8
177
Not enough data
8.7
180
Not enough data
8.7
182
Not enough data
Insights
9.1
189
Not enough data
8.9
183
Not enough data
8.3
179
Not enough data
8.5
189
Not enough data
8.4
183
Not enough data
8.7
39
Not enough data
8.7
311
Not enough data
Agentic AI - Sales Coaching
9.0
21
Not enough data
9.0
21
Not enough data
9.2
22
Not enough data
9.2
22
Not enough data
Training
8.8
258
Not enough data
8.8
250
Not enough data
8.5
209
Not enough data
8.5
244
Not enough data
Feedback
8.8
239
Not enough data
8.6
234
Not enough data
8.6
215
Not enough data
8.6
202
Not enough data
8.8
226
Not enough data
8.9
229
Not enough data
8.7
200
Not enough data
Generative AI
7.6
72
Not enough data
8.3
443
Not enough data
Agentic AI - Sales Enablement
8.0
34
Not enough data
8.0
33
Not enough data
8.2
34
Not enough data
Content Management
8.3
353
Not enough data
8.1
344
Not enough data
8.2
330
Not enough data
8.5
319
Not enough data
8.3
337
Not enough data
Analytics
8.7
347
Not enough data
8.4
345
Not enough data
8.5
226
Not enough data
8.3
352
Not enough data
Learning Management - Sales Enablement
8.3
27
Not enough data
8.4
27
Not enough data
8.5
27
Not enough data
Revenue Enablement - Sales Enablement
8.3
26
Not enough data
8.3
29
Not enough data
8.8
28
Not enough data
Marketing Account IntelligenceHide 17 FeaturesShow 17 Features
Not enough data
8.5
47
Agentic AI - Marketing Account Intelligence
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
Lead Intelligence
Not enough data
8.4
34
Not enough data
8.5
33
Not enough data
8.4
33
Lead Management
Not enough data
8.7
30
Not enough data
Not enough data
Not enough data
8.4
30
Marketing Campaigns
Not enough data
Feature Not Available
Not enough data
8.4
17
Not enough data
Feature Not Available
Not enough data
8.5
18
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8.7
23
Data Availability - Marketing Account Intelligence
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Data Accuracy - Marketing Account Intelligence
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Agentic AI - Revenue AI Platforms
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Platform - Revenue AI Platforms
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Reviews
Reviewers' Company Size
Agentforce Sales (formerly Salesforce Sales Cloud)
Agentforce Sales (formerly Salesforce Sales Cloud)
Small-Business(50 or fewer emp.)
20.5%
Mid-Market(51-1000 emp.)
46.0%
Enterprise(> 1000 emp.)
33.5%
Lead411
Lead411
Small-Business(50 or fewer emp.)
70.4%
Mid-Market(51-1000 emp.)
22.2%
Enterprise(> 1000 emp.)
7.4%
Reviewers' Industry
Agentforce Sales (formerly Salesforce Sales Cloud)
Agentforce Sales (formerly Salesforce Sales Cloud)
Computer Software
13.6%
Information Technology and Services
11.8%
Financial Services
6.8%
Marketing and Advertising
4.9%
Internet
3.2%
Other
59.7%
Lead411
Lead411
Information Technology and Services
14.2%
Marketing and Advertising
11.6%
Computer Software
9.7%
Staffing and Recruiting
7.7%
Management Consulting
3.9%
Other
53.0%
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Discussions
Agentforce Sales (formerly Salesforce Sales Cloud)
Agentforce Sales (formerly Salesforce Sales Cloud) Discussions
When do you need a CRM?
11 Comments
Mohammad Fahad A.
MA
Your writing is really informative, especially because it's so meaningful and updated. Thanks for sharing this wonderful post! Your writing is really...Read more
How can total cost of ownership (TCO) be made better using Salesforce?
11 Comments
Anamika S.
AS
When planning for a Salesforce implementation and creating your budget you’ll want to consider the total cost of ownership (TCO). Figuring this out will help...Read more
What are the features of CRM software?
8 Comments
Manoj M.
MM
1. Customer Management, 2. Employee Day to Day Activity tracking, 3. Make your business process smooth 4. Automated workflow 5. Validated workflow...Read more
Lead411
Lead411 Discussions
Are there any secret tricks to getting even more detailed data out of the system?
5 Comments
mark t.
MT
It is safe to say that you are one of those clients who battling because of various issues relating to cash app activation? Get the right sort of Help for...Read more
What is "IT Intelligence" within the company profiles?
2 Comments
IE
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What is Sales Genius?
2 Comments
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